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Guide to migrating a HV 2012 cluster managed by VMM to HV 2012 R2 + VMM R2

February 18, 2014, 10:05 am
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Hello everyone,

I have a task on hand and even after searching the ‘net for quite some time, I have not come across a solution listed on one page. I hope this thread becomes a “Guide to migrating a Hyper-V 2012 cluster managed by VMM 2012 to Hyper-V 2012 R2 + VMM 2012 R2”.

My searches did find these useful threads but they do not have all the information I need:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/systemcenter/en-US/eb824c20-9632-4ec9-9a71-2d1717e44a81/migrate-from-2012-to-2012-r2-cluster-with-vmm-2012-r2?forum=virtualmachinemgrclustering

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/34412c47-3a37-4ead-aa67-f5119382ae9d/upgrade-from-server-2012-clusterhyperv-to-server-2012-r2-clusterhyperv?forum=winserverClustering

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/systemcenter/en-US/5d4103b5-6491-40d2-b52e-7fffde9580ff/vmm-2012-sp1-supported-to-manage-windows-server-2012-r2-hyperv-cluster?forum=virtualmachingmgrhyperv

So let me start by listing what I have right now:

  • I have a 4 node cluster running Hyper-V 2012 SP1 (the free, core edition).
  • It is currently being managed with SC VMM 2012 SP1.
  • 99% of the VMs are running on CSVs cut off a Fiber Channel SAN. I have some VMs on local drives and they are not HA.
  • Everything is in production. I have around 90 VMs total.
  • I do have capacity to take up to two HV hosts out of the cluster and still survive just fine.
  • I also have two other spare servers which have no OS on them.

What I don’t have:

  • I do not have SCOM or DPM or any other SC component.

Well, I used to have SCOM 2012 but I uninstalled it and removed it. Long story, don’t ask! I do plan to install SCOM 2012 R2 at some point soon.

Here is what I want to do:

  • Upgrade both the cluster and VMM to 2012 R2 version.
  • This time, I want to use Server 2012 Datacenter edition (with GUI).
  • I plan to join the spare servers to the 2012 R2 cluster.

Here is what I have learnt up until now (and correct me if I am wrong):

The steps I need to take to accomplish all this are:

  1. Upgrade VMM 2012 to VMM 2012 R2 version
  2. Eject at least one host from the cluster
  3. Install Server 2012 R2 on that server.
  4. Configure a one server (or more, if possible) cluster running 2012 R2
  5. Give that server the same old CSVs
  6. Use the “Copy cluster roles Wizard” to copy VMs from old cluster to new cluster. However this will incur downtime.

I have not started doing all this because I am not 100% sure on some things.

Here is the list of my questions:

1. About step #1: Upgrade VMM to VMM R2 version

Is there any reliable / official guide out there for this? I have seen these on the net:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn469607.aspx

http://www.systemcentercentral.com/migrating-from-vmm-2012-sp1-to-vmm-2012-r2-step-by-step-upgrading-to-2012-r2-series/

The problem I see is that none of them talk about upgrading a clustered scenario. Do I assume that the steps of upgrading VMM 2012 to 2012 R2 are the same with or without a cluster?

On the server I eject from the cluster, do I upgrade the OS or do a fresh install? I prefer doing a fresh install.

2. Is there a way of doing all this with no downtime?

I am worried about needing downtime for the last step “copy roles…”. I wish there was a way of migrating the roles (VMs) without any downtime.

3. Anything I need to worry about?

I wonder if I need to be careful about granting access to the CSVs to the new R2 Cluster. Will that cause any problem?

Any inputs on this topic are highly appreciated! I promise to update the first post so that it becomes a guide as I get corrections and inputs from everyone :-)

Thanks!

-Rajeev rajdude.com



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Migrate VM between clusters added to the same SCVMM

February 25, 2014, 3:16 am
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Is it possible to migrate VMs between two Cluster ( from 2012 SP1 cluster to 2012R2 cluster) that added to the same SCVMM?
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High Availability VMM on different clusters

February 25, 2014, 6:24 am
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Hi,

I am trying to find if it is possible to have two SCVMM servers with clustered SQL servers, running on two separate clusters and in case of disaster recovery, they will be set to high availability, acting as active/passive.

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Cannot see newly add Hyper-V 2012 R2 node in VMM

February 26, 2014, 1:25 pm
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HI

Here the problem i'm having:

I had a 2 node hyper-v cluster that i've added to Vmm 2012 r2. I had two more nodes via failover manager ( add storage, configured networking, validated, etc.) I've even live migrated successfully a vm to both of the 2 nodes.

I now see all 4 nodes in failover manager but i still only see two nodes in VMM console. I've done a refresh and validation in VMM but it still doesn't recognize or show the two new nodes that i've added. What should i see next? pending nodes or should they automatically be seen in VMM.

Thanks for any help on this issue

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0x8007274D error when live migrating within cluster

February 27, 2014, 2:11 am
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Hello,

we get an error when live migrating within a four node 2012 cluster to node 4, this has been working nicely for a couple of months. 

The Virtual Machine Management Service failed to establish a connection for a Virtual Machine migration with host 'node4': No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. (0x8007274D).

Shutting down and quick migrating the vm is not a problem. Live migration between the other nodes works. Live migration from the affected node is also not a problem.

Config hasn't changed as far as I know. All hyper-v settings look similar on all nodes. Reinstalled Vmm agent, removed node from cluster and added it again without problems.

Hyper-V Live migration settings: Enable incoming and outgoing. Use CredSSP. Use any available network.

Any suggestions?

kind regards, Rogier.

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Hyper-V Live Migration Compatibility with Hyper-V Replica/Hyper-V Recovery Manager

October 26, 2013, 10:21 am
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Hi,

Is Hyper-V Live Migration compatible with Hyper-V Replica/Hyper-V Recovery Manager?

I have 2 Hyper-V clusters in my datacenter - both using CSVs on Fibre Channel arrays. These clusters where created and are managed using the same "System Center 2012 R2 VMM" installation. My goal it to eventually move one of these clusters to a remote DR site. Both sites are connected/will be connected to each other through dark fibre.

I manually configured Hyper-V Replica in the Fail Over Cluster Manager on both clusters and started replicating some VMs using Hyper-V Replica.

Now every time I attempt to use SCVMM to do a Live Migration of a VM that is protected using Hyper-V Replica to another host within the same cluster, the Migration VM Wizard gives me the following "Rating Explanation" error:

"The virtual machine virtual machine name which requires Hyper-V Recovery Manager protection is going to be moved using the type "Live". This could break the recovery protection status of the virtual machine.



When I ignore the error and do the Live Migration anyway, the Live migration completes successfully with the info above. There doesn't seem to be any impact on the VM or it's replication.

When a Host Shuts-down or is put into maintenance, the VM Migrates successfully, again, with no noticeable impact on users or replication.

When I stop replication of the VM, the error goes away.

Initially, I thought this error was because I attempted to manually configure the replication between both clusters using Hyper-V Replica in Failover Cluster Manager (instead of using Hyper-V Recovery Manager).

However, even after configuring and using Hyper-V Recovery Manager, I still get the same error. This error does not seem to have any impact on the high-availability of my VM or on Replication of this VM. Live migrations still occur successfully and replication seems to carry on without any issues.

However, it now has me concern that Live Migration may one day occur and break replication of my VMs between both clusters.

I have searched, and searched and searched, and I cannot find any mention in official or un-official Microsoft channels, on the compatibility of these two features. 

I know vMware vSphere replication and vMotion are compatible with each otherhttp://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-55/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.vsphere.replication_admin.doc%2FGUID-8006BF58-6FA8-4F02-AFB9-A6AC5CD73021.html.

Please confirm to me: Are Hyper-V Live Migration and Hyper-V Replica compatible with each other?

If they are, any link to further documentation on configuring these services so that they work in a fully supported manner will be highly appreciated.

D

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Problem with memory consumption of virtualized exchange server

March 4, 2014, 5:57 am
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I have 2 HP servers both identical with 8 cores and 12 GB RAM each.

On each server I have Server 2012 R2 installed with Hyper-V and failover clustering. We have a single virtual machine which is running server 2012 and Exchange 2013.

I am using failover clustering to provide High Availability for the Exchange server. The virtual machine is configured with 8GB startup RAM and allowed to grow dynamically up to a maximum 11GB.

The problem is that the memory demand for the machine grows beyond the upper limit, and  when I try and failover the machine to the other node, it tells me it cant because there is not enough resource.

Short of upgrading the RAM on both nodes (which is expensive), is there anything I can do to make sure the RAM usage stays within the upper limit, so that I can always failover this machine? We only have 5 users so I have no idea why there is so much demand for memory.

The other curious thing, is that once the memory demand grows beyond the upper limit, the field which says "Available Memory" in the Failover Cluster Manager Summary shows a ridiculously high number!

Any ideas?

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Ghost VM resources under failover cluster manager roles

March 3, 2014, 9:36 am
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Hello, everyone,

I had a Windows 2012 R2 hyper-v host with few VMs running on it. I deployed a second host, and using SC VMM created a failover cluster. Also I added a shared cluster volume and migrated all VMs to the shared storage using SC VMM console. In the process I also checked the checkbox to make the VM highly available. Everithyng worked fine.

Now when I look in to Failover Cluster Manager console I see some "ghost" vm roles. Their names are correspondend to the names of the running VMs, which I also can see in the console. For example I have vm HDCADC01, there is another role in the console "SCVMM HDCADC01 Resources", the status  is off, settings are empty.

Does anyone knows what are these resources? Is it somekind of glitch during the migration? Is it safe to remove them?

Thank you,

Jamal.

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Update the Hyper-V Network Virtualization Policy Failed

March 4, 2014, 6:45 am
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I've deployed a NVGRE GW guest cluster running on Hyper-V cluster which is dedicated for the gateways. The GW cluster is made from the Service Template provided by Microsoft. The deployment went fine and it is attached to the SCVMM with connection string: VMHost=GWP1.domain.local;GatewayVM=gwcl-01.domain.local;BackendSwitch=Production Switch

When I'm adding a NAT option for the virtual network I receive an error below. All other Jobs complete successfully.

Warning (50074)
Policy refresh failed with error: GWCL-01 Execution of Microsoft.SystemCenter.NetworkService::UpdateCustomerAddressRecord on the configuration provider 4ee559f1-f479-480c-9458-d14b8b1c1779 failed. Detailed exception: Microsoft.VirtualManager.Utils.CarmineException: Policy refresh failed with error: Lookup record refresh failed for host GWP1-01.domain.local.
Contact you system administrator to resolve the issue.
Lookup record refresh failed for host GWP1-02.domain.local.
Contact you system administrator to resolve the issue.
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Please contact your system administrator to resolve this issue.
Check the documentation for the configuration provider or contact the publisher support..

Recommended Action
Please contact your system administrator to resolve this issue.

Any ideas how to troubleshoot?

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Attempt to backup VMs on CSV volume causes problem in the Windows 2012 R2 cluster

March 6, 2014, 12:34 pm
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Hello,

I am having problem in my Windows Server 2012 R2 Hyper-V cluster  with VM backups. Any attempt to backup VMs from CSV cause the volume become offline with all expected consequences for VMs running from that location.

The issue is exactly the same as descibed in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2799728 only difference that I am running R2 OS. Does anyone knows if there are patches for latest release of 2012 OS? May be there are any other way around the problem?

I have opened the case with MS Tech support and will keep everyone posted.

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Create Cluster Wizard in SCVMM 2012 doesn't have IP Address page

April 13, 2012, 10:38 am
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i installed the SCVMM 2012 version 3.0.6019.0.

When i use the Create Hyper-V Cluster under Fabric page to create a Cluster.

the Create Cluster Wizard doesn't have the IP Address page to let me input the IP for the Cluster.

after i answer all the wizard, the Install Cluster job shown Error 25325

The cluster creation failed because of error At least one IP address needs to be configured..

so, how to solve it?

thanks alot.

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Can't change Run as account in the Host Access tab for a clustered host

February 5, 2013, 11:34 am
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Gentlemen, we have a bunch of Hyper-V clusters added to hyper-V and most of them have a run as account assigned to them, which we don't want to keep (they were added with a domain admin user).

However, I'm not able to change it on the clustered host nodes. I can change it on non clustered hosts, no issue.

I've tried and, of course, removing and re-adding the clusters with another account also fixes the issue, but there is a good number of clusters and it is all production.

Any other ideas?

I could also rename the run as account and make sure it has local admin right for all nodes. Is it safe? Any gotchas?

I've tried powershell, but I couldn't find a command to change the run as account for a clustered host (read-only).

Thank you,

JF

MCITP, MCSE, MCTS

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VM status as Unsupported Cluster Configuration

March 10, 2014, 6:10 am
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I have some 25 cluster managed by VMM 2012 R2. Hyper-V clusters are on Windows 2008 R2  and 2012. There are two cluster where virtual machines (250) are in "Unsupported Cluster Configuration". When checked the status of VM, it shows as VM uses non-cluster storage. From failover cluster manager everything looks good but in VMM not all storage are reporting as highly available and it display CSV path as\\?\Vloume{someguid}.

Need help to resolve this issue.

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I can't find failover cluster management after creating hyper-v cluster on SCVMM 2012 R2

March 10, 2014, 12:20 pm
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I've created a hyper-v cluster on scvmm 2012 r2 but I can't find the failover cluster manager to move storage resources. all hosts are showing to have hyperv role and failover clustering feature installed. disk Witness in Quorum is good, same as for the other CSV lun. Please help me Microsoft. Thank you. 
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Creating cluster trying to remove disks.

March 17, 2014, 3:58 pm
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Hi

I am going through the pain of trying to create a whole cloud environment using scvmm2012r2 so that it can then link in to the whole windows azure pack.

I have created what I think is the whole fabric which has been very very painful.

My question when trying to make all that setup work is the following.

When I try and create a hyperv cluster using scvmm I step through the wizard. First issue I have is:

I have defined a logical switch which has three vnics one for host management 2. Live migration. 3. Cluster workload.

When it comes to giving an ip it is only allowing me to select from the host management pool. I would have thought it should have been the cluster or live migration networks.

2nd question is when it gets to the disks to cluster. The servers are connecting to a fibre channel switch so can see other disks that are attached to other clusters. In the interface I can not untick those I don't want as part of this cluster. What have I done wrong

in the image I have highlighted the disks that I want to remove but I cannot.

If I do this normally through fail over cluster manager then it is no issue.


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Unable to Install Cluster

March 18, 2014, 3:27 am
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Hi.

I am trying to create a two node cluster using SCVMM 2012 R2. The nodes already have all roles and features installed. I actually validated the cluster configuration using Failover Cluster Manager and i get no errors.

When trying to create the cluster in VMM i am getting this error:

Error (26260)
The Windows Storage Management API returned an error code for the requested operation.
Error code: 41006 [SM_RC_DISK_STYLE_MISMATCH]

Recommended Action
For more information about this error code, see the Windows Storage Management API documentation.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Mario Silva

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Virtural Severs and SANS

March 26, 2014, 11:54 am
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Hello,

We currently have installed various  Virtual Servers and would like to use a SAN for our storage options. We are considering purchasing an HP 4000 SAN.  Where can I find information on how to configure SAN devices with Hyper-V Servers?

Also will the SAN device automatically allocate storage space to the Virtual Servers if we turn on the disk quota options?

Any help would be much appreciated.

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High Availability Greyed Out for Virtual Machine

March 26, 2014, 2:52 pm
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I have a cluster setup where I can verify High Availability works. I can move VMs around and make them Highly Available or use Windows Failover Clustering to do so. I cannot however make any changes to these same VMs through SCVMM. This occurs whether the virtual machine is powered on or off. Any ideas?
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Error 25304

April 13, 2014, 6:54 pm
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Hi,

Anyone can help me about this error when create cluster in SCVMM 2012 R2.

Error (25304)

Unable to execute the task because of error. A required privilege is not held by the client.

Recommended Action

Check if the user has permission on the VMM server and retry the operation.

Btw, I'm using enterprise level account.

Thanks

karl

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SCVMM 2012 SP1 support 2012 R2 VM

April 15, 2014, 4:09 am
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Hi 

     Can you please tell me SCVMM 2012 SP1 console  Support's windows server 2012 R2 and windows 8.1 VM ???

   

Best Regards

Ravi


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